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Built a follow-up-only app after years in sales and would love r/CRM’s honest take

I’ve been reading this sub for a while and I've noticed a pattern. Someone asks what their CRM actually needs to do, and the best answers almost always land in the same place: make logging a call fast, attach a next step with a date, and show who’s overdue. Everything else is optional.

A thread from earlier today is a good example: it describes a 6-month sales cycle with the whole team living in Google Sheets. Nearly every reply says some version of the same thing: Missing features matter a lot less than deals going quiet in month 4 because nobody remembers what was promised in month 1. And if logging takes longer than typing it into the sheet, people go back to the sheet.

This was my life for about 10 years in sales before I moved into product design. The logging and follow-up cadence just felt like admin, so they didn't get done the way they should. So I built an app where you log a call or meeting and set the next follow-up in the same motion, in under 30 seconds, and it shows you who’s due and who’s slipping. That’s basically it.

It's not a team CRM (so no pipeline, no forecasting, no dashboards, etc.). It's for individuals in relationship-heavy jobs who are buried in follow-ups and don't want a Salesforce. I'm starting with real estate agents.

Mods, if this isn’t allowed, please delete. I'm posting here because this community describes the problem better than anywhere else I've seen. I'd genuinely value feedback from people who've actually rolled out CRMs:

  • Where does a follow-up-only tool break down? At what point does someone outgrow it?
  • When you've put a CRM in front of reps, what made the logging habit actually stick, or not?

If you want to poke at it: ozzo.work (iOS and web). Any feedback, even blunt, would mean a lot.

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Painpoints with Salesforce and HubSpot

Hey there!

Small team from Sweden who build an MCP native CRM from the ground up with highest ambition level to help organisations get off salesforce without disrupting their processes.

I'd love to listen into existing pain points with Salesforce and HubSpot so we can ensure a better product and make the transition as smooth as possible.

Just comments in the thread is valuable, but jumping on a 20 min call to go through it in detail would be fantastic!

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Anyone here with experience using Monday.com's nonprofit program?

Hello, good people!

I'm looking for insights from anyone who has used Monday.com's nonprofit program, particularly its free Pro seats and how well it works in practice.

I'm volunteering with US-based nonprofit organizations that want to improve their operational workflows while keeping costs at zero, protecting personal data, and ensuring the systems are easy to use and maintain.

For one of these organizations, I recommended Monday.com's nonprofit program, which offers eligible nonprofits 10 free Pro seats. The director has now asked me to lead the project, which involves designing a system to manage volunteers, donors, partner organizations, and their follow-ups.

I'm open to alternative solutions if Monday.com isn't the best fit. I also considered HubSpot's free CRM, but its limits of two users and 1,000 contacts may be restrictive, depending on the organization's needs.

My main challenge is that I haven't used Monday.com extensively in a production environment. I've worked with HubSpot, Zoho, and Salesforce, as well as productivity tools such as Asana and ClickUp. My experience with Monday.com is limited to briefly reviewing automation workflows for another company earlier this year.

I'm willing to take on the challenge, but before settling on a platform, I'd like to understand what we're getting into and whether there are better options to recommend.

For those who have used Monday.com's nonprofit program, I'd particularly appreciate your insights on:

* How reliable is the platform in day-to-day use, and what has your experience with customer support been like?

* Are there any significant limitations or unexpected costs despite the free Pro seats?

* How well does it handle contact management, relationships, follow-ups, and basic CRM workflows?

* How easy is it for a small nonprofit team to learn and maintain without dedicated IT support?

* Are there any privacy, permissions, or data-management concerns worth considering?

* Would you recommend it for this use case, or would you choose another platform?

I'm also happy to hear suggestions for other genuinely free or nonprofit-supported solutions that could meet these requirements.

I'd appreciate honest, practical experiences, especially from people who have implemented or maintained these systems for nonprofits. Thank you!

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The best CRM is the human brain.

Everything can be written, typed, and automated but then you have underlying dependencies - (see how complicated even one Contact (just like a Rolodex back in the old days) is.

People switch companies all the time, occupy different roles (get promoted and what not, so they are no longer a viable contact, or are slowly making their way to a more trusted decision maker in bigger sales- which is a subtle but important cue for you to tend to that relationship).

If you don't pick up on these things and rely on an external source of truth (newsflash, it's constantly updated and forgotten) then you will not be able to adapt rapidly and flexibly.

When people ask me what a CRM, I can convey that understanding to them as their simple convenient store owner, (one owner remembers all the time that I get sunglasses and nicotine).

The brain is the best CRM and we are so wrapped up in things that we actually reflexively go back to a recorded instance of our info and reports without getting a feel for things

It's actually so basic but nowadays we have a tendency to hoard and follow the money, but the consequence is that we neglect our best and simple relationships in this chase.

Tldr;

Hoarding data is normalized, but the local and global economy is moving incredibly fast and it's so hard to keep up with the meta.

I recommend you all stick to the basics and foundations beforen reaching for your computer or phone to verify things .

Good luck guys, I will stick my to noggin' but by all means I am not just throwing away all my social media/electronics away- that would be kinda stupid.

🧠🧠🧠

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Our sales cycle takes 6 months, and nobody uses LinkedIn. What should our CRM actually do?

I’m planning to build a CRM for a non-tech startup, and I’d love to hear from people who’ve solved similar problems.

Right now, our entire sales process runs on calls and Google Sheets.

Our sales cycle is pretty long, usually around 3–6 months, and most of our customers aren’t active on LinkedIn or other platforms. So traditional CRM features like LinkedIn enrichment aren’t particularly useful to us.

We also have a specific lead qualification process. For example, customers need to meet a minimum unit requirement to qualify for our product. If they don’t meet that requirement, we may offer them an alternative deal.

I’m trying to figure out what features would actually make our sales team’s lives easier rather than building another complicated CRM.

A few things I’m thinking about:
Lead qualification based on our own criteria
Tracking calls, conversations, and follow-ups
Managing deals across a 3–6 month sales cycle
Automating repetitive tasks currently handled in Google Sheets

Making the CRM simple enough for a non-technical sales team

My question: If you’ve built or used a CRM for a traditional, phone-first sales business, what features turned out to be genuinely useful?
What mistakes should I avoid, and what should I prioritize in the MVP?
I’m particularly interested in practical workflows rather than AI features added just for the sake of it.

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Why does CRM training seem to work for a couple of weeks and then everyone drifts back to their old habits?

It’s a pattern that so many teams rolling out a new CRM experience. The kickoff session goes well, people log activity for the first couple of weeks, and then they default back to their spreadsheets and inbox notes. The intention isn’t really to stop using the CRM. Skipping it just becomes a little easier each day.

But the training itself is rarely the problem. Habit is typically what makes a CRM stick. And habits require repetition at the moments people actually get stuck. For example, if by week three a rep has a question that the initial training session never covered, and nobody is around to answer it, the workaround they come up with becomes the new process.

What tends to work is treating the first training session as the start of a longer process instead of just a one-time thing. The longer process should include short check-ins that ask what's annoying teams, ten-minute walk-throughs of one feature when someone needs it, and a manager opening the CRM in pipeline meetings so the data in it matters. Spacing those touches out over a couple of months seems to be far more effective than a longer first session.

The trade-off is that this takes ongoing effort, and in a small team the person responsible is usually already doing two other jobs. Reinforcement is also easy to skip when things look fine on the surface for the first month.

We’d like to know how others handle this. If you've rolled out a CRM to a team, what did you do in weeks two through eight that actually kept people using it? And if you've watched adoption fade, where did you see it start to slip first?

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Ive created a localized & cloud CRM that is dedicated to gig workers

I am a dj who got tried with trying to keep track of events and leads… I decided to make an app myself.

I learned how to code and I wrote the app. It took me years to write It’s not perfect but I am proud of my work.

The app runs on native windows machines only which has the app catering to a select few of users who are old school like me. But idc I made the app for myself and I like to sit at home on my pc when following up with leads.

It integrates with Google Calendar (if I mark a lead as booked it automatically blocks it out on my calendar)

The app was designed to run from a localized database and it also syncs it all to a cloud database.

If you’re a gig worker (dj, photographer, event planner) anyone whose work is based on a service that ends on a certain day. It can probably work well for you.

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How about making business data independent of the software we use?

I’ve been thinking about how much of our business data gets stuck and scattered across our CRMs, email, payment platforms, and operational tools.

The CRM problem is what particularly got me thinking. I’m exploring a way to continuously collect and update data from these tools, then store it in an independent database that we control.

The concept is pretty simple. With our data in one place, we could build internal tools, power AI applications, create reports across different platforms, or simply keep a complete, portable copy of our business information.

If this is something you would genuinely find useful for your business or just help make your life easier as a D.A, shoot me a DM with the tools you currently use and what you’d want to do with the data.

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Clinic CRM setup breakdown: one opportunity per appointment, from intake to six-month follow-up

I implement CRMs for local businesses. Recently, I built a setup for a US-based clinic, and thought the workflow decisions might be useful to others working with appointment-based businesses.

Before this, the front desk and owner handled most things manually: confirming appointments, checking intake forms, giving aftercare instructions and remembering who was due back. They used Excel for reminders, separate booking, invoicing and newsletter tools, and a personal phone for patient texts.

We spent about five hours across a week mapping their process before building it. Their priorities were fairly straightforward:

  • Make communication specific to the treatment.
  • Reduce missed appointments.
  • Keep routine work out of the CRM interface where possible.
  • Clearly divide responsibilities between the front desk and treatment provider.

One opportunity per appointment, linked to the patient

This was the main structural decision.

A patient can have two upcoming appointments with different confirmation statuses, preparation instructions and follow-up needs. A single patient-level opportunity wouldn’t represent those independently.

Each appointment therefore gets its own opportunity. The main appointment stages are:

  • Upcoming, unconfirmed
  • Upcoming, confirmed
  • Critical, unconfirmed: within two days of the appointment

The critical stage is the front desk’s action list. Automated messages handle the initial chasing, then staff get notified when a call is needed.

The clinic also treats bookings made within four days of the visit as confirmed. That’s their operating rule rather than explicit confirmation from the patient (an important distinction when interpreting the pipeline).

Booking and intake

Patients book through the website and receive an acknowledgement by email and SMS.

The workflow checks whether they have previously completed the initial intake form. If not, the acknowledgement directs them to it. Known personal details are prefilled so they don’t have to enter them again.

Clinic calls and texts run through a dedicated number rather than the personal phone.

Reminders and escalation

The schedule includes:

  • Booking acknowledgement
  • Four days before
  • One day before
  • Two hours before

These use a mix of email and SMS. For unconfirmed bookings, the four-day message includes a confirmation link that updates the appointment record.

If the appointment reaches the critical stage without confirmation, automated chasing is followed by a front-desk notification if there’s still no response.

Cancellation and rescheduling links are included in the relevant messages, along with the clinic’s cancellation policy.

Six treatment categories determine the communication

The clinic offers multiple treatments. We grouped them into six categories, which control preparation instructions, aftercare and longer-term follow-up wording.

That gave us a manageable number of workflows while keeping messages relevant to what someone actually booked.

The day before the visit:

  • The patient receives preparation instructions for their treatment category.
  • The provider receives the relevant patient profile and intake information before the appointment.

Attendance without another login

Fifteen minutes after the appointment starts, the provider receives an SMS with a link to record attendance.

This lets them complete a routine action without opening the CRM.

Aftercare and return visits

The setup includes treatment-specific aftercare and a review request, with an internal check for whether a previous review has been recorded.

Longer-term follow-ups are scheduled at two, three and six months. Both the timing and treatment category affect the wording, rather than sending the same “time to book again” message repeatedly.

Treatment and follow-up tags also let the clinic identify relevant groups for future outreach.

The most useful part of the discovery work was deciding which actions needed a person, who owned them, and what information they needed at that moment. Building the automations came after that.

For others using a sales-oriented CRM for repeat appointments: do you use an opportunity per visit, a separate appointment object, or another structure? And what reminder cadence did you find most useful/relevant?

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CRM Data Integrity Is More About Process Than Software

One issue with CRM systems that often gets overlooked is how data quality degrades when multiple teams follow different workflows. Sales may update contact details, support may maintain separate case notes, and management may rely on reports built from records that are already outdated.

Over time, these small inconsistencies create bigger problems: duplicate customer profiles, unreliable pipeline forecasts, incomplete interaction histories, and conflicting information across departments.

User adoption is another part of the problem. When the CRM requires more effort than the process it replaces, people tend to maintain parallel spreadsheets or enter only the minimum information required. That creates gaps that become difficult to identify later.

I think CRM reliability depends heavily on clear data ownership, consistent field definitions, and workflows that fit how teams actually operate. Without those foundations, even a well-configured system can produce misleading reports and poor decisions.

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Tired of dialing from a spreadsheet and bloated CRMs?

Hey everyone, I built a local tool for freelance solopreneurs.

Running cold outreach from a basic spreadsheet gets exhausting real fast:
dialing numbers by hand all day, jumping across windows, and stressing over missed callbacks.

Big-name CRMs are very expensive when you start out and are complete overkill when you work for yourself, while most sales tools feel bloated just to make a phone call.

So I built my own thing: Prospect Legend.

It’s a 100% local Windows app designed for freelancers (no cloud, no APIs, no accounts: you actually keep your data to yourself) that turns any .xlsx spreadsheet into a smooth workflow cockpit.

It lets you import your Excel file to click-and-call, instantly log outcomes so contacts automatically sort into the right tabs, and fire off pre-filled follow-up templates straight from your sheet (you can set up 4 custom templates).

You also get a built-in calendar for reminders so you never drop the ball, plus a bit of gamification with an XP system to keep morale up.

I’m looking for 5 to 6 more freelance beta-testers who deal with cold outreach.

For beta users: there’s a 30-day free trial period, an exclusive discount at launch, and a direct say in future features.

If you want in, drop a comment or DM me.

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CRM Implementation Mistakes That Can Disrupt Daily Workflows

CRM implementation can become challenging when business processes are unclear or teams are not prepared for the transition. Inconsistent data, limited user training, and poor workflow alignment can create confusion and reduce productivity.

A well-planned implementation helps teams maintain reliable information, coordinate tasks, and manage customer relationships more effectively.

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AI got my team updating the CRM more consistently, but I ended up asking them to write their own notes again

We recently rolled out attio, and there's a lot I like. Being able to ask AI to change views, move things around and summarize my deals is pretty cool. still finding it a little less intuitive than HubSpot (deals and companies are in same page, along with the list of contacts, for Attio I need to click into each field which is little annoying) which I used at my previous company but I'm getting used to it and learning more into AI

The bigger thing for me as a AE lead is the usual problem of getting everyone to actually update the CRM. always a tough one getting the top reps to stay hygenic.

Initially, I thought the AI agents helped. My team was happy enough to use them, and updates were getting done. But after a week or two, I started reading through the records and found notes scattered across different sections. There was information in Notes, in Description fields, but it was hard to follow, and some of the nuance was missing.

I tried using Grokbot to auto update my CRM as well but it just felt so clunky for me to set up let alone get my team to do it.

So I ended up asking everyone to write their own meeting notes again. Which felt a bit backwards after introducing all this automation.

I think I’m landing somewhere in the middle. If a field has a clear, factual value, great, automate it. For meeting notes, I still want the rep’s own account of what happened and what they think matters.

We already had Willow Voice across the company, mostly for our leadership to use, so I’ve started getting reps to dictate their CRM notes with it too. I give them all a structure to start off with and they can talk through a longer update without having to type everything out. Early days, but so far that’s been working better for us to have all the info in one place, and having all the point of a CRM plus it is also cleaned up.

How are other sales leads handling this? What do you let AI update. and what do you still ask reps to write themselves?

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My CRMs didn't protect me from TCPA time violations

I run my own business selling insurance, and like a lot of people doing outbound calls, I'm working leads in multiple states and all four time zones.

There's a Federal flat rule and then there separate rules about what hours you can call and how many times you can call in 23 other states. They keep changing and I couldn't find any website that was completely up to date. All the states have totally separate websites for this. The hours by state can be really different through the week, Saturday, Sunday and Holidays. For instance Monday was Columbus day and telemarketing is flat banned in states like AL. Several states ban the number of calls/texts you can make in 24 hours.

Under the TCPA, statutory damages for violations covered by the Act can be $500 per violation and $1,500 for willful or knowing violations. State penalties vary, but in some jurisdictions they can reach into the tens of thousands.

I work with 2 different CRMs and it turned out that both of them only block the Federal guidelines of 8 am to 9 pm.

I went online and the few places that posted the rules were not official and hard to read. I set up an AI scraper and just went after all 50 states to find the individual rules. It turns out that the sites that I checked all had at least a few mistakes because the rules keep changing.

So I set up a page that lists all the rules per state with links to the citations that refreshes every morning after the AI run check. There's an email signup on that page that will only send you notifications when rules change. No marketing or anything else.

The problem I kept running into was: "how am I supposed to remember all of these calling rules while I'm actually working?"

I didn't want another checklist sitting beside my computer. I wanted my CRM to warn me before I made the call.

So I built CRM Call Guard.

It's a chrome extension that works "out of the box" on 6 CRMs so far and has a 1 minute configuration to get it to work with almost any CRM. There's a feedback button and if someone has a CRM that offers a free trial I can get it to recognize it in about half an hour.

I'd appreciate feedback, especially from people who spend their day calling leads. If there's a rule, CRM, or real-world calling situation I've overlooked, I'd rather hear about it now.

It runs in the browser on top of the CRM you're already using. It checks the lead's location and local time against the rules I've compiled and gives you an indicator right beside the call button. Everything stays in your browser.

If you're inside the calling window, you get a green indicator.

If there's a problem like the wrong time, Sunday/holiday restriction, frequency limit, then it turns red. If you click the call or text button anyway, Call Guard stops you and tells you why before letting you decide whether to continue.

The rules are kept up to date without you having to do anything.

I built it originally because I needed it myself. Once it was working, I figured there had to be other agents and agencies with exactly the same problem.

So I'm hoping to grow this mostly through agents or white label agencies telling other agents about something that's actually useful rather than dumping money into ads.

The extension is $24/month for two users and has a 7-day free trial.

*CRM Call Guard is a calling-hours/contact-frequency aid, not legal advice or a guarantee of compliance. It doesn't determine consent or Do-Not-Call status.*

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Moving from newsletter/content into a CRM & loyalty role. How hard is it really?

Hi! I've been doing newsletters and campaign content for a big retailer for a while. Our CRM & loyalty position has been posted for several months now, and they still haven't found anyone. We're a bit outside the city, so I don't think many people want the commute. I asked my manager if I could take on the responsibility in the meantime, and it looks like I might get it. Let's be real though, it's probably mostly because nobody else has applied who fits.

To be honest, I'm not loving it at the company right now, and a lot of that comes down to feeling micromanaged (I’ve several times experienced someone in my team, just one person though, going in and changing the links in the newsletters so they’re wrong??). Part of why I want this is that it would be my own area. Nobody else really knows CRM there, so I'd finally get to make my own calls without someone looking over my shoulder on every little thing. And it could also be a good way to gather more experience and open new doors (I hope?!).

From the job description, the role covers:

- member communication (newsletters, landing pages, member content)
- developing the loyalty club and member benefits
- segmentation
- automated customer journeys (welcome flow, post-purchase, reactivation)
- analysis and reporting
- working with marketing and e-commerce

We're also moving to Voyado soon, and the role covers two chains.

The posting says you don't need 10 years of experience or to be an analyst. They want hands-on CRM experience, curiosity and someone who gets things done. I'm solid on the content side and already do a the newsletter analysis. But I've never built automated flows or worked on the actual loyalty program (points, tiers, the money side of it).

So for anyone who's done a role like this:

- I have a meeting with my manager today and want to ask for the right support. What would you ask for in my position? Training, courses, a mentor, clearer decision rights? What actually helped you?

- What was the hardest part when you started?
- Has anyone gone through a platform migration (Voyado or similar) early in the job? Any tips?
- Did owning CRM actually give you more freedom, or did you end up with just as many people having opinions?
- Anything you wish you'd learned before day one?

Would really appreciate any honest experiences, good or bad!

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fiz um CRM porque cansei de usar CRM, e queria ouvir de quem vive isso no dia a dia

fiz um CRM porque cansei de usar CRM, e queria ouvir quem vive isso no dia a dia

trabalho com vendas B2B há um tempo e sempre tive uma relação meio de ódio com CRM. na prática ele vira o lugar onde o vendedor presta contas pro gestor, não onde ele trabalha de verdade. aí ninguém atualiza, o gestor olha número velho e no fim todo mundo volta pra planilha e pro WhatsApp.

umas coisas me irritavam muito. cadastrar empresa digitando razão social e endereço na mão, sendo que tá tudo na Receita. mandar proposta em PDF e ficar no escuro, sem saber se o cliente abriu ou se é hora de ligar. o SDR qualificar um lead, passar pro vendedor e a informação se perder no meio do caminho. e pagar caro em ferramenta gringa que cobra por módulo, numa conta que não fecha pra time pequeno.

então comecei a construir o meu, o sales2revenue. a ideia é ser simples pra quem vende e útil pra quem gerencia. você coloca o CNPJ e ele preenche a empresa sozinho, importa a planilha de leads que você já tem sem duplicar tudo, e toca os negócios num funil em Kanban. a proposta sai de dentro do próprio negócio, com a cara da sua empresa, e você fica sabendo quando o cliente abriu de verdade (não conta robô nem ele dando F5). se ele gostar, aceita ali mesmo com um clique.

pro gestor tem um painel com funil, conversão, receita e metas por vendedor, e dá pra clicar no número pra ver quais negócios formam ele.

a parte que mais tenho curtido é a Mavis, a IA que fica dentro do CRM. no dia a dia ela resume o histórico de um lead ou negócio, sugere o próximo passo, rascunha e-mail e ajuda a preencher a qualificação. mas onde ela brilha mesmo é como SDR. você define o perfil de cliente ideal da sua empresa (ela até monta um rascunho olhando os negócios que você já ganhou) e delega os leads pra ela. ela pesquisa a empresa na internet, cruza com os dados da Receita pelo CNPJ, dá uma nota de 0 a 100 de aderência explicando o porquê e já te entrega uma sequência de três e-mails pronta. ela mostra de onde tirou cada informação e não manda nada sozinha: você revisa, ajusta e aprova, e aí as atividades caem na agenda do vendedor. a ideia é tirar do SDR a parte chata de pesquisar e deixar com ele a parte de conversar.

o que eu queria mesmo era achar uns times comerciais pequenos dispostos a usar e me falar sem dó onde tá ruim. se curtir a ideia, me fala aqui embaixo que eu libero o acesso.

e fica a pergunta pra quem quiser só opinar: o que mais te irrita no CRM que você usa hoje?

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How do you manage your customer feedback and analyze it?

I am curious about how do you actually do it.

Businesses often have customer feedback and signals coming from multiple channels - chat, emails, tickets, etc. Keeping track of what actually is relevant is not as easy as it seems. One issue may be mentioned across two separate channels, and it is very easy to miss it.

So, I wanna know how are you doint it?

  1. How do you de-duplicate incoming feedback?

  2. How do you differentiate between noise and actual signals?

  3. How do you categorize it (theme, tag, sth else)?

  4. Do you have a threshold before you decide if a feedback is worth focusing upon?

  5. What happens if you do not have enough evidence/feedback to take action? (For example maybe one or two customers complaining about a feature)

I'm from a technical domain, so I don't really know how feedback analysis is actually done on scale. Would like to know what approach do you follow. Trynna explore into this so your actual experience and workflows would be helpful

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[Weekly] CRM Rant/Rave Thread - What's great/awful in CRM for you this week?

This is a weekly post for you to let out about something which happened this week for you in CRM that mattered: features, client requests that were either great or awful this week, and just generally chat CRM / CRM consulting chatter.

No self promo, just a place to share tales from the front-line of CRM!

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