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Supposed subversion of "popular" tropes, but actually the tropes being subverted are rarely used, if at all.

Supposed subversion of "popular" tropes, but actually the tropes being subverted are rarely used, if at all.

I'm talking about fans gassing up their favorite series by imagining a trope that's barely used at all in fiction, pretend that it's popular, and then act like their series is the first to subvert this oh so mainstream trope. It pisses me off so much. Just say your series is good and talk about its actual good points, you don't have to make shit up.

  1. Elder Scrolls: Fans like to think wood elves being hippies vegans are popular depiction despite most of fictional elves are hunters with bows. Why would they hunt if they don't eat meat? And 80% of elves in fictions are Nazi allegory so I don't know where this peaceful elf thing comes from
  2. Frieren: Point me to a series where demons are a race of morally good people, please. The best you could do is stories where a select few demons are trying to redeem themselves from the evil society they grew up in, which just means demons are evil most of the time. Idk why Frieren fans their demons are subverting expectations
  3. Jujutsu Kaisen: Ganging up and jumping your enemies are in fact not subversive in a battle shounen. One of the most popular shounen ever, Naruto, has heros jumping the antagonist all the time. Not to mention shounen like Attack on Titan, Dragon Ball, Hunter x Hunter, you name it, all place importance in taking enemies by surprise.

Edit: I see a lot of people mistake this at me hating on the series itself. No, I'm just hating on the fans. Not the series' fault that fans are overzealous

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