I do not know how this fits into the rules so please let me know if it is not allowed.

I propose a battle to see how fast the community CRMs are. I feel this gives everyone a chance to name drop their CRM without being spammy to people in the other threads and presents a challenge for who has the fastest and leanest CRM (or most optimized). Most of the test is network latency but server time is the time it takes for your CRM to receive the request, run your auth system and respond to the client (TTFB - SSL). Scripts are what javascript has to load after the request to fully serve the page.

Post your VM provider and server specifications and if you are located in the same geographical area. Then run the script or run the command on its own and post your results. May the fastest CRM win.

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Google Cloud - E2-Micro 2 cores 1GB RAM

Running google central and located on the SD/WY border.

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Me (SudleCRM) TTFB: 240ms Server: 34ms Size: 0.9KB Scripts: 0

Pipedrive TTFB: 426ms Server: 234ms Size: 36.7KB Scripts: 8

GoHighLevel TTFB: 294ms Server: 90ms Size: 9.3KB Scripts: 6

Salesforce TTFB: 326ms Server: 113ms Size: 12.0KB Scripts: 9

HubSpot TTFB: 465ms Server: 261ms Size: 20.1KB Scripts: 19

Zoho CRM TTFB: 1255ms Server: 281ms Size: 28.3KB Scripts: 11

The links used are in the script and all providers are tested the same way.

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Here is an internal test that requires your session cookie and actually tests the speed of the CRM. Use your real session cookie in the script and hit an actual route in your CRM.

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Endpoint: /api/leads/rows (59892 leads, paginated, server rendered HTML)

TTFB: 334ms

Server: 65ms

Size: 7.7KB

Everywhere I look I see references to GHL and HubSpot and SalesForce etc. Are you guys using all these features that are offered? It seems they have a feature for every edge case. I have a CRM targeted at tradespeople and small business owners currently and its discouraging to think I may have pigeonholed myself. I am not including a link on purpose to avoid sounding spammy but my CRM is deliberately lean and simple.

Leads, Deal, Contact, Notes, Calendar. It has the essentials like per-contact notes and such. Supports webhooks in to fill entries. Has a little AI agent to ask questions about the database. It doesn't require an instruction PDF or clicking through six menus to add a contact and it looks basic but deliberate and refined. It is not a CRM clone of the week. I am not going to add tons of features to try and compete but are there some non-negotiables that pretty much everyone needs these days?

For the techies I run a single binary written in a compiled language. No mult-tenant. One client per VM. One client per DB. Takes 150MB RAM to serve 60000 leads. No node/react/postgres/javascript etc. It loads instantly no matter what, the only thing that impacts the speed is the network connection of the client. Users are allowed to register via email whitelist and there are no special user privileges.

What are your thoughts on simple CRMs? I don't want to occupy a niche where people would rather use GHL or a spreadsheet than me. For those of you in defined sectors like real estate do you prefer "real estate CRMs" or do some of you use generic CRMs for specialized work? Is automation a requirement for most of you?